Climate Changed Podcast Season 4
Season 4
Welcome to Season 4 of Climate Changed: a podcast about becoming more human in a more-than-human world.
With this new season, the conversations just keep getting richer and more vital, with a burst of fresh brilliance from five incredible guests and the addition of an amazing co-host, Autumn Brown.
This season, we’re listening to people who are re-imagining what creative leadership looks like – and to what ends. We’ll keep connecting, healing, and rooting as earthly creatures facing our Earth that’s profoundly climate-changed.
Season Four Episodes
2026 Episode Swaps
Your hosts
Autumn Brown &
Rev. Nicole Diroff
Autumn — an esteemed artist, facilitator, mother, theologian, and experienced podcast host — joins The BTS Center’s Rev. Nicole Diroff for a deep exploration of what it means to be human in dehumanizing times.
Autumn Brown is an artist, facilitator, mother, and theologian. The front woman of the eponymously named soul-pop band, AUTUMN, she is a queer, mixed-race Black woman, a gifted facilitator and orator, and a freedom worker who grounds her approach to building movements for liberation in her belief in the innate capacity for healing that emanates from the human heart.
Rev. Nicole Diroff is ordained in the United Church of Christ. She holds expertise in facilitation, data management, and strategic planning. Nicole is a certified Maine Master Naturalist, serves as Chair of the Spiritual Formation Committee at Williston-Immanuel United Church and is Co-Chair of the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Committee for the Scarborough Public School District.
With insights from
Climate-Fiction Author and Editor
Tory Stephens
If hope is a muscle, then how do I build it?
Tory publishes climate fiction, weaves networks, and builds relationships that expand the mission of Grist — where he created Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors. He joins our hosts to talk about spirituality in storytelling and what we can still do when the facts don’t change minds.
Climate Chaplain
Rabbi Ora Nitkin-Kaner
If I can’t fix climate grief, then what can I do instead?
Climate Chaplain Rabbi Ora speaks with us about her spiritual care-work and the sacredness of the complicated feelings people have in the face of bewildering uncertainty. She helps us name what helpful spiritual leadership is these days – and what it isn’t.
Zen Buddhist and Indigenous Educator
Norma Wong
What constitutes “human being-ness” during ecological crisis?
We talk with Norma Wong about what it means to be good ancestors in a time of collapse and how to reconstitute community and resilience.
Norma Wong is a Native Hawaiian and Hakka Zen teacher. She is a lifelong resident of Hawaiʻi, and the abbot of Anko-in, an independent branch temple of Daihonzan Chozen-ji as well as an 86th-generation Zen Master who has spent over forty years applying Zen and Indigenous values to transformational change.
Disaster Response Expert
Rev. Katie Mears
What do disasters reveal about human nature?
We talk with Katie Mears — who works as the Senior Technical Specialist for U.S. Disaster and Climate Risk at Episcopal Relief & Development — about disaster response done well and how to show up with our faith when people have lost everything familiar.
Psychotherapist and Author
Francis Weller
What if it doesn’t get better anytime soon?
Psychotherapist and author Francis Weller has spent decades tending grief, ritual, and soul work in community. In our conversation, he talks about what he calls “the long dark”: the generations-long passage we are living through.
What does the long dark ask of our imaginations and our rituals? What ordinary tools of climate chaplaincy do all of us have at our disposal?
Climate Changed is…
A podcast by The BTS Center exploring some of the most pressing questions about faith, life, and climate change.
Produced by Peterson Toscano, the podcast features acclaimed guests such as Brian McLaren, Elizabeth Rush, Craig Santos Perez, and many more.
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Special Episodes
BTS Behind the Scenes
Spiritual Practices
Season Three Episodes
Season Two Episodes
Season One Episodes
